Web 3.0 – A Series of Posts Intended to “Design” & “Define” – Question #2 Discussion
REAL QUICK, in case you are coming late to the party (which I never recommend, because all the best hors doeuvres are gone and you are left with finger sandwiches) here is where it all started….
“Web 3.0 – A Post Intended to “Define” & “Design”, – Original Post Nov 2nd
Web 3.0 – Discussion #1 – “OMG, I Never Thought of That!” #2 Nov 20th
Web 3.0 – A Series of Posts Intended to “Design” & “Define” – Question #1 Discussion #3 Dec 3rd
OK, now let’s look at the responses to Question #2…
Is there any harm in discussing Web 3.0 now?, and Why did we pick the moniker Web 3.0?
Zane Burnett – “Yes it can do harm, here’s my analogy of why…It’s like playing a game of Pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey with no Donkey! so at the end of the day, all you have is a wall full of holes”
Jay Thompson – “Naming it is stupid! it is what it is. I see us setting ourselves up for disappointment. It doesn’t really mater though, because we can’t stop it”
Me – (commenting on a Chat room quote by Chuck Reynolds; “Talking about it means nothing, being the guy who invents the next Twitter, is where its at”) “That’s my point, names don’t matter! It’s conversations like this that matter. We are getting in the game. and I would disagree about not knowing what it will look like, we do know, or at the very least, may know. It will look like our visions, our needs, our desires and someone much smarter than I am will make those visions a reality. It will be [The One] that Kevin Kelley refers to in his video (The next 5,000 days of the Internet). Think in regards to the movies I referenced in post #2 in this series. These were all just visions, thoughts, dreams and now they are reality. Like the cell phones we now all take for granted as part of our everyday lives are simply the “communicators” Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock were using in the TV series, some 30 years ago!”
So what can we take from this? We all agree that it’s coming. Some may feel that we are premature, or out of our realm, which may or may not be true. What I is true is, you can sit back and let others shape this, or you can “get in the game”.
“Put me in Coach, I’m ready to play”!
…and for the next “Gifted” individual who is looking for “The next Twitter” as Chuck referenced, I want my Tweets and FB updates etc to appear on my car’s Nav Screen! That would be totally cool!
Next Post, question #3 – They say that in the next generation, the Web will be “Curated”, what does that mean?
The Coach – Business Development Rep for “The Pango Group”
Laurent
Posted at 17:02h, 10 DecemberCan we stop using words that don't mean anything? I have an urge to unsubscribe anytime someone uses words like Web 2.0 or 3.0 seriously.
therecoach
Posted at 14:43h, 14 DecemberTruth is it has to be called something Laurent. Don't focus on that, get in the game! Get in the discussion; what do you think it will look like? What do you need out of the next generation of the Internet? It's easy to critisize, it's hard to visualize!
TheRECoach
Laurent
Posted at 08:48h, 15 DecemberTruth is adding a version number to the Internet makes no sense. People who use such meaningless words are usually the ones that are not in the game or hardly understand how it works.
therecoach
Posted at 09:24h, 15 DecemberLaurent, please don't get upset, I am not “mocking” you. I am saying that it is easy to criticize people for something you don't agree with, but it is more impressive when you can offer up solutions instead, or at the same time. Fact is Web 2.0 is so accepted now that it is the “definition” of the current stage of the Internet on all major encyclopedia and dictionary sites. It is used by Ivy League colleges, and Pac 10 colleges to describe where we are, and where we have come from. Many people share your view; that Web 3.0 is a silly description of the next phase, some call it “Semantic” web amongst others, but if history shows us anything, it's that humans are a “Simple” lot, the majority will migrate to the simplest solution, and Web 3.0 is a simple solution. My guess is Web 3.0 will be the accepted phrase used, but I don't really care. Nor do I think it's relevant to the discussion. What is relevant is … What do you think it will look like? and What can you do to “Design” & “Define” it!
Coach
Laurent
Posted at 10:34h, 15 DecemberI probably come off as a little confrontational and for that I apologize.
How can we say we're in what you call the web 2.0 or any other phase when there's such a huge disparency between website?
In my area, 75% of the real estate websites are table based, use animated gifs and resize small pictures to make them bigger using the html img tag. Flashback to 1990 anyone?
Another thing you have to remember is that our market is not always tech savy. The average home buyer is not using the developer build of google chrome on a linux box. As a matter of fact, 10% of our market is still using IE6 which means SLOW javascript execution and no png alpha transparency among other things.
There is already so much catching up to do to bring everyone to where we are now. What I'm doing to “design and define it” is actually very concrete. I add a banner on every website I make asking IE6 users to update their browser. Probably not the answer you were looking for though.
therecoach
Posted at 11:07h, 15 DecemberBRAVO Laurent, BRAVO! That is a high quality comment to a Blog post. Your point is “EXCELLENT”! In Real Estate, I agree, only (aprox) 10% of the Realtors/Brokers are even caught up to Web 2.0, but I submit to you this….#1 – The vast majority of them are discovering that being so far behind has cost them dearly #2 – Perhaps, at the moment we are pointing this Web 3.0 discussion at the 10% that are ready to start thinking ahead (as they did with Web 2.0, and look where that has gotten them!) and #3 – I believe that with this next phase, that 10% adoption rate, will be at minimum doubled to 20% and perhaps as high as 25% as they begin to employ more staff with an Internet background. How's that for Optimistic?!
Case in point, my Escrow Co. (Just began there Dec 1st) Pango Group, found me (and me them) via Social Networking. The reason I signed on with them was their strong commitment to, not only SN (They hired Stacey Harmon @staceyharmon as their Social Media Director for God's sake), but a truly aggressive Internet Marketing and Technology based “Paperless” Escrow system!!! You sound as if you have been around Real Estate for a while, when have you ever heard of an Escrow Co. doing that? I loved it! If an Escrow Co. can see the light, ANY Real Estate Co. can! 🙂
I love your contribution to furthering the Internet by hanging that IE6 banner! Every lil bit helps, and we build our future brick by brick! I salute your efforts, because you are “getting in the game”.
Please continue to comment on my posts, I enjoy your insight, and please continue your efforts. With more people involved, we can make a difference…Please allow me to use excerpts of your comments in further posts, here, and on my personal blog???
Coach
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Posted at 00:32h, 15 DecemberIt is always good to discuss future techonologies, web 3.0 in this case, for any real estate agent or professional business man must think long term in order to benefit both his customers and his business
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Posted at 09:16h, 15 DecemberThat's an excellent point Harold! Stay informed, think ahead, and be involved in the next generation and watch your business grow! Best of luck at yours Harold 🙂 BTW – Do you have a vision of what Web 3.0 may look like, or what you would like it to look?
Laurent
Posted at 16:48h, 15 DecemberTruth is adding a version number to the Internet makes no sense. People who use such meaningless words are usually the ones that are not in the game or hardly understand how it works.
therecoach
Posted at 17:16h, 15 DecemberThat's an excellent point Harold! Stay informed, think ahead, and be involved in the next generation and watch your business grow! Best of luck at yours Harold 🙂 BTW – Do you have a vision of what Web 3.0 may look like, or what you would like it to look?
therecoach
Posted at 17:24h, 15 DecemberLaurent, please don't get upset, I am not “mocking” you. I am saying that it is easy to criticize people for something you don't agree with, but it is more impressive when you can offer up solutions instead, or at the same time. Fact is Web 2.0 is so accepted now that it is the “definition” of the current stage of the Internet on all major encyclopedia and dictionary sites. It is used by Ivy League colleges, and Pac 10 colleges to describe where we are, and where we have come from. Many people share your view; that Web 3.0 is a silly description of the next phase, some call it “Semantic” web amongst others, but if history shows us anything, it's that humans are a “Simple” lot, the majority will migrate to the simplest solution, and Web 3.0 is a simple solution. My guess is Web 3.0 will be the accepted phrase used, but I don't really care. Nor do I think it's relevant to the discussion. What is relevant is … What do you think it will look like? and What can you do to “Design” & “Define” it!
Coach
Laurent
Posted at 18:34h, 15 DecemberI probably come off as a little confrontational and for that I apologize.
How can we say we're in what you call the web 2.0 or any other phase when there's such a huge disparency between website?
In my area, 75% of the real estate websites are table based, use animated gifs and resize small pictures to make them bigger using the html img tag. Flashback to 1990 anyone?
Another thing you have to remember is that our market is not always tech savy. The average home buyer is not using the developer build of google chrome on a linux box. As a matter of fact, 10% of our market is still using IE6 which means SLOW javascript execution and no png alpha transparency among other things.
There is already so much catching up to do to bring everyone to where we are now. What I'm doing to “design and define it” is actually very concrete. I add a banner on every website I make asking IE6 users to update their browser. Probably not the answer you were looking for though.
therecoach
Posted at 19:07h, 15 DecemberBRAVO Laurent, BRAVO! That is a high quality comment to a Blog post. Your point is “EXCELLENT”! In Real Estate, I agree, only (aprox) 10% of the Realtors/Brokers are even caught up to Web 2.0, but I submit to you this….#1 – The vast majority of them are discovering that being so far behind has cost them dearly #2 – Perhaps, at the moment we are pointing this Web 3.0 discussion at the 10% that are ready to start thinking ahead (as they did with Web 2.0, and look where that has gotten them!) and #3 – I believe that with this next phase, that 10% adoption rate, will be at minimum doubled to 20% and perhaps as high as 25% as they begin to employ more staff with an Internet background. How's that for Optimistic?!
Case in point, my Escrow Co. (Just began there Dec 1st) Pango Group, found me (and me them) via Social Networking. The reason I signed on with them was their strong commitment to, not only SN (They hired Stacey Harmon @staceyharmon as their Social Media Director for God's sake), but a truly aggressive Internet Marketing and Technology based “Paperless” Escrow system!!! You sound as if you have been around Real Estate for a while, when have you ever heard of an Escrow Co. doing that? I loved it! If an Escrow Co. can see the light, ANY Real Estate Co. can! 🙂
I love your contribution to furthering the Internet by hanging that IE6 banner! Every lil bit helps, and we build our future brick by brick! I salute your efforts, because you are “getting in the game”.
Please continue to comment on my posts, I enjoy your insight, and please continue your efforts. With more people involved, we can make a difference…Please allow me to use excerpts of your comments in further posts, here, and on my personal blog???
Coach
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