Basic IDX Questions, Answered
The other day, Drew Meyers pointed me to a post in the Zillow forums where someone was asking some very interesting (and seemingly common) questions about IDX. The individual wanted to know what IDX essentially is and whether or not someone could create a program that could easily search across all real estate listings on a national level. While many real estate professionals, and especially those reading this blog, may know what IDX is, I’ve spoken with enough people to know that this knowledge is by no means common to everyone. Therefore, I’m going to answer (from my own perspective) a few of the most common questions I’ve heard surrounding IDX.
What exactly is IDX and what does it mean?
At the most basic level, IDX, or Internet Data Exchange, is a branded property search website. Although some MLS’s only allow brokers to get an IDX website, most of them allow both brokers and agents to get an IDX website. Additionally, some MLS’s will actually give out free links to a (usually) stripped down version of an IDX website that the MLS either built themselves or contracted out to a vendor to build. Once the agent or broker has an IDX website, they usually either frame it in or link to it from their own website so that their website visitors can interact with it and search for properties by themselves.
Can I use an IDX website to look up or search for active listings on a national level?
Not right now. While it is possible to build an IDX website aggregates listing data on a national level to allow someone to search for properties across the nation, the only way I’m aware of doing it would be to create a company that would have some mondo bucks behind it. First, they’d have to be legally licensed as a broker in all 50 states. Next, they’d have to pay membership dues to approximately 1800+ MLS’s and a plethora of other associations through the country. They would also have to make sure that they, and their IDX vendor, maintained compliance with all of the different rules and regulations for each one of those MLS’s. Finally, they’d have to have an army of agents to be able to respond all of the requests for real estate services by people all across the county. Depending on who you ask, those restrictions that prevent an IDX website from functioning on a national level are either a good thing or a bad thing.
Are all IDX feeds the same?
Not at all. The raw data that comprises the IDX feeds to power the IDX websites are provided to vendors in almost any and every way you can imagine, from FTP downloads to, literally, UPS shipments of hard drives. Additionally, each MLS or association puts their own spin on the data, making it really difficult to maintain a good IDX system that can accommodate any MLS across the country. Each MLS also requires vendors to change the way their IDX solution displays the data to follow their own rules. Basically, there’s just not a single point of contact for anyone or a single API that allows those who need the data to query or download it at will.
I’ve heard a lot about RETS lately. Is RETS different from IDX?
RETS is just one of the numerous ways that IDX vendors and other direct consumers of raw real estate can get information from the organizations who collect that information. The whole idea of RETS is that operational costs will be lower to the data providers and tech vendors will be able to quickly hook their systems up to those providers without having to spend lots of time to accommodate each new system. The goal is definitely a noble one, but from my own perspective of actually working with the different RETS systems, it really hasn’t saved me that much time due to the numerous differences among each provider’s data.
Can I get listings from the IDX for my RSS reader?
The ability to get new / updated listings and property updates via RSS, or Really Simple Syndication (YouTube vid), is a feature that the individual IDX vendors would have to implement. I know that our IDX has full support for RSS feeds, and I have definitely seen other companies that do this (although, unfortunately, I can’t recall them right now). I’d bet that quite a few vendors who don’t currently support RSS are actually working on this feature right now.
My MLS or association only gives out a VOW feed. Is IDX different from VOW?
I recently discussed IDX vs VOW, or Virtual Office Website, at length with my coworkers, and from our perspective, we’re convinced that the definition between IDX and VOW is, at best, fuzzy. A VOW data feed is supposed to be a raw data feed that can be only be displayed on a VOW website, and, by definition, VOW websites require visitors to register as a user in the system to search for and view listings. In reality though, many data providers actually give vendors what they call an IDX feed that is really a VOW feed; vendors are then supposed to strip out the VOW-only fields to turn that data feed into something that can be displayed on an IDX website. It’s a really confusion world when it comes to IDX vs VOW, so if you want to know more, I suggest you check out MetalSoftware’s writeup on IDX vs VOW.
What do I need to do to get an IDX feed?
First, you should probably contact your association or MLS. Again, if you’re an agent, you might not be able to get an IDX website. Once you contact your organization, ask them what paperwork you need to fill out to be able to have your own IDX website. You might also want to ask them if they provide a free, pre-branded IDX link you can use, although those links usually pretty crippled with less features and without the visitor login / registration system you’d find elsewhere. After you have a basic idea what hoops you’ll have to jump through to get an IDX website, you’ll want to pick a good IDX vendor to go with. I’ve listed a few of the ones I know of below.
- Advanced Access
- Birdview
- Diverse Solutions (my employer)
- IDXCentral
- IDXSolutions.com
- iHomefinder
- Real Estate Webmasters
- MetalSoftware
- Smart Realty Solutions
- WebCubic
- Wolfnet
- Xoompad
Anyway, I hope this post addresses some of the more basic questions that people have about IDX. I love to talk with people about the gooey technical details of what I do, so if you want to know more about anything on any level, leave a comment and I’ll do my best to answer anything you can throw at me.
Michael Wurzer
Posted at 05:39h, 17 DecemberGreat post, Andrew! Regarding RETS, the primary reason to use RETS for IDX today is for incremental updates. The only other method of getting data from an MLS typically is FTP, which is delivered once a day. RETS, on the other hand, can be update much more frequently.
Also, in terms of data standards, two developments will make your job as an IDX vendor much easier in the next six to twelve months: (1) new schema are very close to being finalized, and they are much broader and deeper; and (2) the NAR MLS Policy Committee has created a new policy for all MLSs to support RETS, and so the mapping to the new schema will be a focus for all MLSs. These two developments, combined with pressures from MLS regionalization, will make RETS the “go to” method for getting MLS info for IDX sites even more than the update frequency does today.
Hojin
Posted at 08:03h, 17 DecemberVery informative post. I’ve been looking to add a map based search for my sites and this list really helps. So far I’ve found that Realbird seems to be the most bang for the buck but they do not service my area. I believe Diverse Solutions offers the best interface but it’s too darn expensive. Can anyone suggest a lower priced alternative?
Andrew Mattie
Posted at 09:23h, 17 DecemberAdvanced Access has a map search for their IDX, but it doesn’t work with Firefox. Wolfnet has a mapping IDX search, but I’m fairly certain that it’s more expensive than ours. I’ve also seen Real Estate Webmasters do custom IDX searches with Google mapping interfaces, but they charge a fairly significant upfront development cost and a moderate monthly hosting fee for it.
Other than those three (and the one you mentioned), I don’t know of anyone else who does a mapping IDX search.
Andrew Mattie
Posted at 09:31h, 17 December@Michael:
You make a really good point with the update frequency that RETS allows. Along those same lines, I hope that RETS will be more stable than the myriad of custom FTP dumps that most MLSs have; I can’t even tell you how often I get notices that an FTP feed for an MLS is broken.
Other than that, I’m really looking forward to a new and standardized data schema! I hope it will mean that we will no longer have to hunt around in the data feed for the column that represents the number of bedrooms, number of bathrooms, etc, as those sorts of things can definitely be a big time sink for us.
Michael Price
Posted at 09:32h, 17 DecemberIDX,VOW,RSS,RETS……OMG! This is why technology must seem like water coming out of fire hose to most agents and brokers. Technology providers and the IT staff at MLS organizations really need to do what they can to simplify and demystify all of this. In the end it’s really not complicated at all. We’re just making that way.
It’s commentary from tech vendors like this that I really admire. It’s transparent and written with the intent of educating and informing.
Great job Andrew!
Alex
Posted at 19:19h, 17 DecemberMost of you don’t get the point of an MLS. It is not to help you the consumer get access to listings but to protect a real estate brokers’s 6% commission and the monolopy by restricting access only to local brokers.
There is no incentive for the MLS vendors to open up their data feeds because thier customers are the large real estate brokerages (Century 21) not the average joe trying to buy a home.
It is possible that someone like Zillow cracks the nut and creates an open free national MLS, if accomplished then that will be of huge $$$ value.
The other option would be for congress to regulate open and fair access to a free real estate market, I’m not holding my breath on that one as the real estate monopolgy lobby is very large.
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Posted at 06:26h, 27 DecemberHojin,
Unfortunately, we (RealBird) still do not have your market covered with the Map-based IDX Search, but will release a big one very soon and will add many more during 2008!
Also, we just introduced a new concept, i.e. widgetizing MLS hotlists so that agents and brokers can capture visitors from blogs and from the “edge” of the Internet.
See the write up about the concept at http://realbird.typepad.com
Andrew, great post and good to see you guys coming along with nice products. Competition is what drive innovation, as we all know !
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Rhamy
Posted at 08:43h, 18 AprilI am an agent in Memphis, TN. I am trying to figure out a way to create a database with MLS data, which automatically returns zillow zestimate values into the table or report.
Does anyone know how to do this, or have a link that explains it? I have access to the local MLS.
Even something as simple as pasting in a string of addresses and getting the returned zestimates would be so much better than indivually going through each listing.
Thank you so much for your time.
Kauai real estate guy
Posted at 16:50h, 22 JulyWe work with several IDX feeds and RETS is by for the best and easiest to work with. I hope more MLS systems adopt it.
Jeff in Hawaii
Posted at 11:08h, 27 JulyAndrew – Do you think they will have a RETS standard any time soon?
Your solution is one of the better ones I have seen from website site design companies 🙂
Drew Meyers
Posted at 14:32h, 27 JulyJeff-
A standard feed format is well underway — take a look at this post.
James Schiller
Posted at 18:59h, 13 FebruaryHi Drew.. Question..How do you create data objects out of the real estate IDX iframe? Is there a place to get access to my local MLS IDX API? I see all these companies that sell IDX search platforms to agents, but we want to design our own instead of paying a set up and monthly for someone elses?
Jeff in Hawaii
Posted at 19:50h, 27 JulyThanks for responding Adrew and pointing me in the right direction!
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Posted at 01:22h, 16 SeptemberAlthough RETS has been advertised as “the future”, IDX is most certainly here to stay, for the time being. It’s easier to implement and consequtively has a lower price-tag, which might be a decisive factor to small agents and realtors.
Heather McCroan
Posted at 05:36h, 16 SeptemberIn my research I have found the following that provides websites and will import your MLS:
IntAgent.com
Top Producer
Terabitz
Bob
Posted at 20:50h, 04 DecemberMany vendors don’t offer RSS because it isn’t compliant with the rules regarding redistribution specified with every MLS I’ve checked.
ADR Hawaii
Posted at 20:54h, 04 DecemberYou are correct Bob, many do not allow it because it breaks IDX rules and too easy for scrappers to get all the MLS listings.
Branson Real Estate
Posted at 08:49h, 24 JanuaryThanks for the great list and explaination of IDX. As a realtor, we have been using the services for Innovia. But we are about to make the transition to RETS.
We currently get all of our MLS data via FTP push and it’s all raw data coming in.
So, we hope it will be better (and less stressful on our server resources) when we switch to RETS.
Thanks for the great info!
real estate questions?
Posted at 16:20h, 11 Februaryi am completely new to this stuff here so thanks for the really good explanation here.
Branson Homes
Posted at 08:15h, 21 FebruaryWe are not using any IDX feeds. Instead, we simply use our own featured lisitngs system.
Memphis TN HOmes
Posted at 00:47h, 03 Junei am completely new to this stuff here so thanks for the really good explanation here.
lilyphan
Posted at 06:39h, 28 SeptemberI'm completely new to this so the article helped a lot. Thank you. However, I'm still kind of fuzzy on the details.
I work for a home builder company and we have a MLS that contains several listings that we want to put up to as many websites as possible. The task is assigned to me. From what I've learned so far, most (if not all) of those websites require XML data feed in order to have those listings uploaded and updated automatically. What is the connection between IDX and XML? Do I have to write an XML feed myself? But each .xml document can only have one home in it, right? I'm by no means a programmer, so I'm really confused.
Pardon my silly questions. I greatly appreciate your help on this.
lilyphan
Posted at 13:39h, 28 SeptemberI'm completely new to this so the article helped a lot. Thank you. However, I'm still kind of fuzzy on the details.
I work for a home builder company and we have a MLS that contains several listings that we want to put up to as many websites as possible. The task is assigned to me. From what I've learned so far, most (if not all) of those websites require XML data feed in order to have those listings uploaded and updated automatically. What is the connection between IDX and XML? Do I have to write an XML feed myself? But each .xml document can only have one home in it, right? I'm by no means a programmer, so I'm really confused.
Pardon my silly questions. I greatly appreciate your help on this.
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Posted at 15:27h, 12 AprilIs it possible to get geocoded data from IDX. (i.e. lat & long). Or is there a service that converts it after the download?
Drew Meyers
Posted at 15:07h, 14 AprilYou can convert addresses using an api like Google. Yahoo used to offer an api as well but shut it down.