Five Things Zillow Could Learn From Realtor.com
I wrote a previous piece on the five things that Realtor.com could learn from Zillow including the newer, fast-paced marketing techniques that they have been using to catch up to Realtor.com in terms of consumer traffic online.
While “shiny and new” always generates attention, it’s worthwhile to also examine some of the superior traits of a company with a long track record. Experience creates some wisdom in marketing and an attention to detail that can sometimes be missed in a pell-mell startup environment. Ergo:
Five Things That Zillow Could Learn From Realtor.com
Bigger Isn’t Always Better: Sometimes More is Less
Of course, I’m talking about the database of homes available for sale. It’s been widely reported that in many markets, the number of homes listed for sale on Zillow’s website and apps greatly exaggerates the actual market. Expired listings, duplicates, and questionable “foreclosure” listings inflate the numbers and give an inaccurate view of the actual market of homes for sale.
While Realtor.com will sometimes miss a minute portion of the market, the listings you see on their website are directly from MLS sources. The database of homes available is accurate, timely, and smaller for a good reason. Home buyers browsing these homes will make better use of their time, and have a better understanding of the current market. While Zillow has higher hurdles to cross to make this happen, that’s just reality. The consumer isn’t concerned with the impediments a company faces, just the product it produces.
Speed and Ease of Use are Paramount for Mobile
I had previously lauded Zillow’s ads for their mobile device apps as superb marketing. Realtor.com hasn’t quite started the same level of marketing push, but after comparing the actual mobile products, they should be blasting mobile ads on every screen they publish.
To be fair, Zillow and Realtor.com’s apps are both sensational real estate applications. They have similar features, and are better visual products than what most agents use from their actual MLS. The ability to draw an outline on a map with your fingertip and select homes within that sketch is mind boggling to an agent who has watched the clunky search functions evolve over time.
Realtor.com, even though its products have been downloaded less times, has superior products on both mobile phone and tablet platforms, in my opinion. They just seem to get a user to their desired endpoint more quickly. There are less steps to take, and the menus seem more intuitive. The “draw” function for buyers to circle a search area happens seamlessly within the screen without delay. Of course, the quality of listing data is better as well.
If you haven’t tried out these apps, give them a try. I tested on Android, iPhone, and iPad, and although both companies’ apps on all platforms performed well, the Realtor.com app on iPad blew me away.
Newbies Like Flashiness; Serious Buyers Like Accuracy
Real estate websites generate the majority of their revenue from advertising. Most of that advertising comes from real estate agents. While the sales process is changing daily, more and more attention is being paid to the kinds of visitors a web site gets, and not just the raw traffic numbers.
Agents want to advertise on sites that have serious home buyers. Realtor.com prioritizes listings first, with all other offerings as auxiliary features. When a user searches for homes, they’re not being called away to other items. The focus is squarely on the homes for sale.
Zillow, on the other hand, seems more focused on displaying a wide range of features and tools, with listings for sale being one of those features. Listings are just one of many layers of icons upon a map. It’s a big part of the business, but it’s just one of many.
Which leads to a related point:
Not All Web Visitors Are Created Equal (In an Agent’s Eyes)
News stories and user discussion forums bring in traffic, but quality listing databases create buyers who stay on-site. Realtor.com’s average visitor spends about 20 minutes on the site and views 45 pages. The majority of this time is spent on actual listing pages, not conversing with strangers about the Federal Reserve.
These are the visitors that agents are looking for, and as the metrics and analysis for agents become more clear and prominent, this will be a huge factor in driving advertising revenue. Realtor.com’s visitors spend more time, visit more often, and view more pages. These are valuable visitors.
All Publicity Creates Traffic, but Bad Publicity Also Creates Enemies
We can cut to the chase on this one. Zestimates created Zillow. There are a whole lot of other amazing technical achievements by the company as it grew over time, but the Zestimate was the iconic calling card that brought attention to the company. Everyone wanted to know what their home was worth, and this was the single element that initially defined the company as being very different.
While this drove a large amount of initial traffic, it was criticized by the vast majority of those than analyzed it. Every strain of real estate professional knew that the numbers were ridiculous, and these are the people who were supposed to be the revenue source. Home buyers and sellers, in large percentages, scoffed at the values they received. Yes, they certainly visited the site and looked. When they saw the results, however, the taint of inaccuracy was attached to the brand name. No amount of disclosure, explanation, or rationalization can separate the zestimate from the overall brand. If you rely on a marketing gimmick for traffic, you receive the appropriate consumer response.
Realtor.com had similar access to automated valuation products from First American other providers if it had felt the need to follow suit, but chose to stay out of the fray. Home buyers, sellers, and agents who understand the inaccuracy of those valuations appreciate that.
The question for Zillow is, when do you drop the gimmick? Is there a point at which you’re so successful that you don’t need it anymore? It clearly hurts credibility. It would be wise, in my opinion, if a company had already gained front-runner status and gone public, to re-evaluate the need for such a controversial feature. Then again, I’ve never managed an IPO, nor had to answer to a board of directors.
Overall, these sites have both brought some significant and exciting changes to the world of real estate online. Both have also made some mistakes that deserve analysis. Still, the ongoing changes will keep us entertained and on our toes…and continue to give me something to write about.
Greg Fischer
Posted at 18:18h, 29 MarchSam,
Great post again. The Realtor site is great, but don’t forget to point out a glaring negative quality. Listings that aren’t from ‘advertising partners’ (agents and brokerages who pay $ to Realtor.com) show on the site with only the 1st 4 pictures from the listing. Sure advertising drives revenue and Realtor.com rewards agent who spend money by showing ALL of their listing property photographs, but this is ridiculously silly to me.
Sam DeBord, SeattleHome.com
Posted at 22:57h, 29 MarchGreg, I feel your pain, and I think that the previous post had a good position on the negatives of “showcasing” certain listing in a Realtor platform. We both know that a more transparent listing database would drive enough traffic to make up for the loss in listing dollars with new buyers’ agent revenue.
Greg Fischer
Posted at 08:48h, 30 MarchYou did cover this point well in the previous article, but just yesterday I was asked by a client (using their mobile app) why some listings only had 4 pictures – and found myself explaining it to them and thinking how annoying it was and how it really does a disservice to the customer researching real estate.
I agree – transparency will drive more traffic. “Here are all of the listings, with all of the information about them, in the order that you the customer specify (without a special preference ordering of brokerages/agents). I think this approach would work well in 2012 and beyond.
I agree on Zillow considering the removal of Zestimates, but I can’t see it happening. It likely drives most of their traffic even today.
Greg Fischer
Posted at 10:01h, 22 MayCorrection to my comments here about the 4 pics. Realtor.com shows every picture associated with every listing. Spoke to Scott Boeker, the Move CPO at a conference yesterday and he was very quick to point this out to me. Good move on their part. I think they should publicize this. I wasn’t aware of the change (since I don’t often look at the site).
Tony Gilbert
Posted at 21:52h, 29 MarchGreat article Sam… once again. LOL, I audibly laughed at your closing comment. Yep… there never seems to be a shortage of things to talk about in this industry!
Sam DeBord, SeattleHome.com
Posted at 22:55h, 29 MarchAgreed, Tony, all of the changes in the industry make it an exciting time for brokers. Always something new.
Propertystr
Posted at 04:13h, 30 MarchThanks to you
that’s great share for me
Allan S. Glass
Posted at 14:48h, 30 MarchHi Sam, interesting points in both your posts, and it seems like the most relevant points are:
1) the most useful app/tool in the field is the one with the most accurate information, and 2) engaging the consumer visually and with interesting content keeps them interacting with the site.
On point #1 I agree with you completely that Realtor.com currently wins and as the direct source of for sale properties will always be the 800lb gorilla (and likely winner) on this issue.
On point #2, i think the answer to this dilemma for both companies gets a bit more difficult to address. Some visitors simply want the data, some want to engage in conversation, some want to read celebrity gossip and other newsworthy information. To the first point Realtor.com seems to have the most accurate data and again wins here. Both companies engage visitors with conversation and news clips, but in different ways, I don’t think there is one answer to this and different visitors will have different preferences.
What’s most surprising to me is the feedback you’re getting in the comments section. In particular the problem agents have with preferred listings on Realtor.com. I think we all understand that these companies need to monetize their sites to stay in business. I personally have no problem with it. My take on the preferred realtor listings is like the paid search results on Google. Sometimes it helps me find what I need sometimes it’s just ignored.
I don’t pay for placement of my listings; further if my clients, or agents want more pictures, I can email them in a moments notice, or they can get them via the mls. problem solved.
I understand this is a Zillow funded site and mean no disrespect. I think there are really two horses in this race, I participate with both, Trulia and Realtor.com. I have tremendous interaction with buyers / sellers through a blog on realtor.com and many many conversations with vistors as a result of blogs and Q&A’s on Trulia. My results from Zillow have not been as favorable.
Best of luck, thanks for the post!
Allan
Sam DeBord, SeattleHome.com
Posted at 08:35h, 31 MarchThanks for your thoughts, Allan. I completely agree that the sites need to be monetized and it’s *reasonable* for Realtor.com to use showcase listings as their strategy. However, I don’t think it’s their best option.
I think they could make more money, and make a lot of agents happier, if they didn’t promote/obscure listings, pitting listing agents against each other, and muddying the database in doing so. Make the database more transparent.
Buyers don’t care which listing is “showcased”. As a matter of fact, they’d rather NONE were showcased. They want to see the full list of homes available, in the order they’ve requested in their search, and pick their favorites on their own. Build buyer trust, and you build more traffic with a clear database, and you’ll get more revenue from buyers’ agents advertising on the site.
We all agree, at least publicly, that dual agency isn’t the best representation. Listing agents should welcome buyers’ agents advertising their services on the site to sell their listings.
(By the way, this site was “founded” by Zillow members, I’m fairly sure there’s no “funding” from Zillow. Kudos and critiques are still welcome for all companies.)
mayaREguru
Posted at 20:20h, 30 MarchSam,
Nicely done, although I am coming at it backwards and have not read the first post, I have to say for the most part I agree with everything you say. My one question is where in the world am I getting the impression from your piece that you are saying REALTOR.com does not present ALL the listings? As an agent I have NEVER had a listing missing from the site, so I am perplexed.
If you are comparing the Zillow number of listings to Realtor.com, well then of course Zillow has more, because sometimes it takes 6 months to remove a listing after it has sold so therefore they would tend to show higher available propertie. I can’t tell how often I have to inform a client that no, their dream house sold 6 months ago, someone just can’t be bothered to check the data.
I am not anti-Zillow at all, I adore everyone there and I think their site has some amazing utilities and uses, I do abhor the Zestimate, and spend far too much time re-educating clients, and I have even lost ones because I showed them the value was not accurate and they said I was not working for them.
I love that Realtor.com stays out of AVM and let’s me do my job, when in doubt I call the appraiser for a backup, it works in a sale everytime. I do this on a daily basis for a living so I might have a better sense than an algorithm. I know Drew Meyers has explained it to me before, and he is such a good friend he respects that he will not sway my opinion, but he had some impressive facts.
As for apps, I use the Realtor.com app on my Windows Phone, and used it on my Android before (Windows wins), I also have it on my iPad which I take on relocation tours and will use when clients want to know what is nearby. I just LOVE the draw feature, that is just the coolest ever. I use it when I want to identify a house but I don’t know the street names. It’s the BEST search ever.
Sorry to say, I always tell my clients to do their searches on my sites (yes I have three – a Virtual Results/Diverse Solutions, BoomtownROI and Market Leader Vision, and technically Top Producer too) or to search on Realtor.com because I know that it is up to date and I won’t have to tell then a house is already sold and closed 3 months ago.
And for the record, in 1999 I found the house I am currently living in on Realtor.com.It is reliable, it does’t need to make a lot of noise, it just has to be good. It has it strengths, as does Zillow, the peripheral stuff like this blog, GeekEstate, and so much more.
In general, we are luck to have an overabundance of resources, so I am grateful, but especially grateful to Realtor.com, I buy the products too – I have featured agent, I get the zip codes for my listings, if it’s offered I probably have it. I don’t think twice as I always get the value back in the end. =)
Drew Meyers
Posted at 06:28h, 31 Marchrealtor.com does not have all the listings for the NWMLS (where sam works) since some brokerages have specifically pulled out. That was the case a couple years ago. Sam can tell us if that’s still the case.
mayaREguru
Posted at 07:26h, 31 MarchI just don’t understand, as an Agent, why any brokerage would elect not to share listings, I know we can exclude properties from MLS listing but isn’t the goal to get top exposure for our Seller clients? How is that happening if we keep them in our back pocket, the best kept secret is still a secret.
So I guess this brings me to the whole question of Edina Realty. I just don’t get it, other than I think it’s a “shake down” for the big search boys -Realtor, Zillow and Trulia.
Sam DeBord, SeattleHome.com
Posted at 08:27h, 31 MarchDrew is correct, there are some agents who opt out in some markets. It’s a very small percentage, but to make a fair comparison, it must be stated that Realtor.com has “almost” every listing available.
In regards to your Edina comments, it’s a question of degree. Is a listing that’s already on thousands of MLS/IDX websites in your city and Realtor.com really a “secret” or “in our back pocket”? It’s certainly missing some exposure from the big syndicators. It’s still getting a lot of exposure in general.
Brokers who are merely upset with other agents getting their leads are missing the point, in my opinion. That’s just business. Those who object to the content on the platform where their listings are being displayed have a more reasonable objection. They have to weigh long-term strategy vs. short-term.
Drew Meyers
Posted at 08:29h, 31 Marchin seattle, they have way less than full coverage though since brokers with very large market share (John L Scott, Windermere) don’t have their listings there. at least, I think that is the case..someone in seattle can correct me if I’m wrong.
Sam DeBord, SeattleHome.com
Posted at 08:56h, 31 MarchI know that JLS and Windermere have listings there today, not sure what the past or current buseinss relationship is. Could be brokerage-wide or individual agents syndicating.
Drew Meyers
Posted at 08:58h, 31 Marchok. I can’t remember exactly what the deal was a couple years ago — I just know R.com was a non player in Seattle due to listing coverage (and Redfin dominating). Actually, I thought the NWMLS used to be opted out? But some brokerages sent their listings there anyway.
Sam DeBord, SeattleHome.com
Posted at 18:35h, 31 MarchI believe that was it.
Jeremy Wacksman
Posted at 22:36h, 31 MarchSam,
Appreciated both posts (this one, and your earlier reverse view). Just one small note – the Zillow apps have draw your search as well (you can find this on both our iPhone and iPad app).
You can draw one or multiple regions, and save that custom drawing as a saved search, getting instant notifications and syncing it with Zillow.com.
More info on our draw feature here (launched last year): http://www.zillow.com/blog/2011-11-29/draw-your-own-search-on-zillow-iphone-and-ipad-apps/
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